Just thought I'd share

topic posted Wed, January 24, 2007 - 9:19 PM by  Megan
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A really good article about the irish language and the stigma still attatched to it..I nearly cried at the part with the kids..one of the best articles about the irish language I've ever read! ..I cross posted this some other places too...so you might see it more than once

www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story...4,00.html
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Megan
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  • Re: Just thought I'd share

    Thu, January 25, 2007 - 3:54 AM
    Excellent article Megan. I really enjoyed reading it. I'm American and have yet to visit Ireland but hope to do so.

    As I read, I thought of my only experience that was remotely similar. I had just graduated from college and drove to Houston, Texas for my first job. I pulled into a grocery store to ask directions and nobody spoke English...only Spanish. The same thing happened at two other stops. It was a surreal having grown up in the Northeast.

    I'm amazed at the experience with the Dubliners. I would have expected the quizzical looks but not that level of coldness and frustration. And that basement cafe! (shock)

    Beautiful story about the new Gaelscoileanna (had to copy/paste that one). You sense that the kids are busting with pride. So the younger generation not only adopts the traditional language but makes it uniquely their own.

    Loved these quotes:

    "Even on the staunchly loyalist Shankill Road in Belfast I was treated with civility, though warned that if I persisted in speaking the language I was liable to end up in hospital."

    "In Galway, I went out busking on the streets, singing the filthiest, most debauched lyrics I could think of to see if anyone would understand. No one did - old women smiled, tapping their feet merrily, as I serenaded them with filth."

    LOL

  • Re: Just thought I'd share

    Thu, January 25, 2007 - 4:29 AM
    I must issue a statement here..I don't like Manchán Magan. He is a very precious man and set out to offend and belittle with this article.
    This is an old article, here in Ireland and caused a bit of an outrage at the time. I think Mancán might have plagerised bits from "The Popes children."
    It is very reminiscent of that book..
    I learnt an Gailege at school and attended the Gaeltachts in Gweedore and Loch an Úr.
    The Irish language isn't being taught in primary schools anymore, so my 2 daughters will attend weekend Gaelscoileanna, from next year.
    • Re: Just thought I'd share

      Thu, January 25, 2007 - 5:40 PM
      I can understand that. I admit I am coming from a position of not living in the country, so that can alter how I see something like this. I was just happy to see about the kids and things like that..and it is interesting to me on an anthropological level. I would love to see more, newer articles on the subject, but unfortunately most of the articles about the language are in Irish, and my irish is not nearly good enough to read them..so I guess its just more motivation to get better!

      and I cant say to the plagerism, as I haven't read the book..but I should pick it up..
      • Re: Just thought I'd share

        Sun, January 28, 2007 - 4:30 AM
        The Popes Children is an excellant read..It started out as an economics/sociological text book..Beleive me you will enjoy it and see yourself in it.

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